Which instrument should I learn next?

ByBret Pimentel
Photo, Jon Delorey

One of the questions I get most frequently from aspiring woodwind doublers is “Which instrument should I learn next?”

The short answer is “Whichever you want.” Woodwind doublers’ motivations (career, artistic, or personal) are varied, and your interests and goals should override any advice I (or anyone) can offer. If you really want to learn to play a certain instrument, then no need to read further—that’s the one you should tackle next. And if you don’t feel motivated about a certain instrument, then your chances of success aren’t good.

But many of the doublers I hear from have designs on picking up several instruments over the long term, and are just looking for advice to maximize some aspect of their current careers:

Employability

If your goal is to get as many doubling gigs as possible, then there are some relatively common combinations of instruments that are used for musical theater, jazz big bands, and other commercial-type live-performance situations. (If you play another combination, then there are probably still opportunities out there if you find them or make them yourself.) Some of the common ones are:

  • Flute, clarinet, and saxophone. For jazz situations, you need good saxophone chops coupled with a good grasp of jazz style and possibly improvisation. If doubling is required, it will almost always be C flute, B-flat clarinet, or both, and often the bar isn’t terribly high on these. For theater, you will find that the weighting depends on the show and the book; often the Reed 1 and Reed 2 books both call for flute, clarinet, and saxophone, but Reed 1 might have the lead flute parts and solos, and Reed 2 is the lead/solo clarinet part. If it’s a jazz-heavy musical, then either part might call for orchestral-type soloing on flute or clarinet, plus demand convincing lead alto saxophone playing. Theater books are also likely to call for doubling on “secondary” instruments like piccolo, E-flat clarinet, and soprano saxophone.
  • Low reeds. In a jazz big band, this means primarily baritone saxophone with some bass clarinet (and occasionally B-flat clarinet and/or flute). For theater, a more “classical” show will likely be bassoon-heavy, with bass clarinet and baritone saxophone doubles; a jazzy show will lean toward baritone saxophone and bass clarinet with less (or no) bassoon. Bass saxophone and contrabass clarinets occasionally appear as well; most smart arrangers will provide ossia lines to enable covering these on more standard instruments.
  • Oboe specialist. This surprising combination shows up in many musicals: oboe, sometimes with English horn, plus B-flat clarinet and tenor saxophone. Generally the oboe and English horn parts call for a soloist-level player, with little more than inner harmonies on the single reed instruments.
So which instrument to take up next? If you play…
  • …flute, then alto saxophone in a jazz style is your best bet, followed closely by B-flat clarinet. Chances are good that you already do some piccolo; if not, then it should perhaps be a priority. Alto flute is also fairly common for musicals. Don’t forget about the potential in folk, ethnic, and historical flutes as well.
  • …oboe, then saxophone is a good choice, particularly tenor, with clarinet coming close behind. English horn is a must for a working oboist, too, whether doubling other woodwinds or not.
  • …clarinet, then alto saxophone and jazz style should be at the top of your list, followed by flute. Even in clarinet-only situations in musicals, clarinet in A is fairly rare, but bass is quite common (even if you are the “lead” clarinetist), and E-flat pops up sometimes too.
  • …bassoon, then baritone saxophone and bass clarinet are good choices (luckily you are already accustomed to crushing debt). For pedagogical purposes, I think it makes a certain amount of sense to start with alto or tenor saxophone and B-flat clarinet, but the lower instruments are what will get you the gigs, and, if you study them properly, I don’t see any real reason that you couldn’t jump straight to the big horns.
  • …saxophone, then either flute or clarinet can be an equally good choice, perhaps to be followed shortly by the other. It’s worthwhile, too, to be a well-rounded saxophonist, with skills on at least soprano through baritone. If you are primarily a classical saxophonist, it’s time to really buckle down on jazz-style articulation and phrasing.
If you are proficient in four or more woodwind families, you might find yourself in situations where local theater musical directors always call you first, then assign you a book later depending on what other lesser-skilled doublers they can round up. Or that local orchestras like to bring you in to bat cleanup in the woodwind section: bass clarinet on this piece, third flute on that piece.

Profitability

Perhaps you aren’t concerned about gigging every night, but you would like to have some leverage on getting the best-paying jobs. In union situations (or other situations where you have enough leverage to set your own terms), you can usually get an additional percentage added onto your base pay for each additional double, so the more skills you have, the greater the potential earnings. There can also sometimes be “cartage” fees if you are transporting heavy instruments (such as baritone saxophone or contrabass clarinets).

Beyond that, I think it really depends on the opportunities (and the competition) in your area. Oboe has been particularly good for me for getting relatively high-paying gigs, even though it is probably not what I do best. I’ve also occasionally earned bonuses from desperate contractors when I’m the only doubler for miles around who is willing to play piccolo.

Pedagogy

One question that seems to come up often is whether skills on one specific instrument make it easier to learn another specific instrument. In other words, is there an optimal order for learning to play the woodwinds?

For me, the answer is a clear no. I find that only the most basic concepts (breath support, voicing, articulation, and maybe a few others) are really transferable between instruments, and, even then, the applications are different. “Similar” fingerings or embouchures are not necessarily an advantage if your goal is to sound like a specialist on each instrument. (There are many who disagree with me on this, since, for example, a good clarinetist can probably pick up a saxophone and play a reasonable beginner-level scale without much coaching and with only minor experimentation on fingering. If reasonable beginner-level scales are your goal, then, well, there you go.)

In conclusion

Often, the most interesting music for woodwind doublers is written with a specific musician’s skills in mind: a Broadway orchestrator does a woodwind-playing friend a favor by writing to his or her strengths (or adding a few bars of piccolo for that extra doubling fee), or a big band’s staff arranger makes sure to include plenty of clarinet for the second tenor player. If you are known for being good at what you do, then any combination of instruments can lead to great opportunities. However, you may need to fit into some pre-made opportunities until you get good and get known.

Practice hard and good luck!

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  • Woodwind Doubler Census 2021 results, part 2: doubling abilities

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    Thanks to all who participated in my 2021 woodwind doubling survey, and to those who helped spread the word. I’m releasing the results in installments, so be sure to use my social media links, RSS feeds, etc. to keep up.

    I got 284 responses, an improvement over 2011’s 187. The numbers for each of these questions don’t necessarily add up to exactly that number, since not everybody responded to every question.

    Which woodwind instruments do you play, and at what levels?

    Based on feedback from the 2011 survey, this year I added the option “Strong amateur.” I also provided an option for respondents to affirmatively state that they play an instrument “Not at all,” but the “Not at all” data shown here also includes those who didn’t provide an answer for that instrument.

    2021 Data
    Flute Oboe Clarinet Bassoon Saxophone Any folk, ethnic, or historical woodwind(s) Any woodwind-style electronic instrument(s)
    Not at all 26 (9%) 126 (45%) 14 (5%) 151 (53%) 7 (2%) 149 (53%) 219 (77%)
    Casual dabbler 43 (15%) 47 (17%) 24 (9%) 39 (21%) 8 (3%) 59 (21%) 27 (10%)
    Strong amateur 64 (23%) 45 (16%) 53 (19%) 30 (12%) 53 (19%) 33 (12%) 14 (5%)
    Semi-pro or college music major 79 (28%) 31 (11%) 90 (32%) 29 (10%) 90 (32%) 29 (10%) 14 (5%)
    Professional 70 (25%) 32 (11%) 100 (36%) 34 (9%) 123 (44%) 13 (5%) 9 (3%)

    2011 Data
    Flute Oboe Clarinet Bassoon Saxophone Any folk, ethnic, or historical woodwind(s) Any woodwind-style electronic instrument(s)
    Casual dabbler 42 49 39 28 28 58 16
    Semi-pro or college music major 68 32 68 27 59 11 5
    Professional 48 18 69 22 92 13 16

    Which instruments do you own?

    2021 Data
    piccolo 174 62%
    flute 252 90%
    alto flute 85 30%
    other member(s) of the modern flute family 32 11%
    oboe 126 45%
    English horn 61 22%
    other member(s) of the oboe family 8 3%
    E-flat clarinet 84 30%
    B-flat clarinet 247 88%
    A clarinet 89 32%
    bass clarinet 143 51%
    other member(s) of the clarinet family 44 16%
    bassoon 85 30%
    contrabassoon 7 2%
    soprano saxophone 161 57%
    alto saxophone 240 85%
    tenor saxophone 197 70%
    baritone saxophone 124 44%
    other member(s) of the saxophone family 29 10%
    recorder(s) 169 60%
    pennywhistle(s) 95 34%
    bamboo, wooden, or similar sideblown flute(s) 60 21%
    other folk, ethnic, or historical woodwind(s) 60 21%
    electronic wind instrument(s) 36 13%

    2011 Data
    piccolo 97
    flute 161
    alto flute 35
    other member(s) of the modern flute family 17
    oboe 75
    English horn 24
    other member(s) of the oboe family 4
    E-flat clarinet 47
    B-flat clarinet 171
    A clarinet 61
    bass clarinet 84
    other member(s) of the clarinet family 26
    bassoon 51
    contrabassoon 3
    soprano saxophone 106
    alto saxophone 160
    tenor saxophone 138
    baritone saxophone 81
    other member(s) of the saxophone family 26
    recorder(s) 106
    pennywhistle(s) 75
    bamboo, wooden, or similar sideblown flute(s) 53
    other folk, ethnic, or historical woodwind(s) 32
    electronic wind instrument(s) 24
    other 34

    Which instrument(s) do you consider your “primary” instrument, if any?

    A number or respondents selected, for example, flute and piccolo as primary instruments, or all four major saxophones. I’m guessing that boosts the results here for some auxiliary instruments; there probably aren’t many doublers who would really consider piccolo their (single) primary instrument.

    piccolo 15 6%
    flute 46 16%
    alto flute 8 3%
    other member(s) of the modern flute family 3 1%
    oboe 36 13%
    English horn 12 4%
    other member(s) of the oboe family 1 0%
    E-flat clarinet 15 5%
    B-flat clarinet 95 34%
    A clarinet 28 10%
    bass clarinet 40 14%
    other member(s) of the clarinet family 6 2%
    bassoon 36 13%
    contrabassoon 6 2%
    soprano saxophone 41 15%
    alto saxophone 102 36%
    tenor saxophone 73 26%
    baritone saxophone 49 17%
    other member(s) of the saxophone family 4 1%
    recorder(s) 2 1%
    pennywhistle(s) 0 0%
    bamboo 2 1%
    other folk 1 0%
    electronic wind instrument(s) 3 1%

    Which instruments do you not own, and have had to turn down gigs because of that?

    piccolo 2 2%
    flute 1 1%
    alto flute 2 2%
    other member(s) of the modern flute family 0 0%
    oboe 4 4%
    English horn 6 6%
    other member(s) of the oboe family 1 1%
    E-flat clarinet 0 0%
    B-flat clarinet 1 1%
    A clarinet 0 0%
    bass clarinet 6 6%
    other member(s) of the clarinet family 0 0%
    bassoon 3 3%
    contrabassoon 7 7%
    soprano saxophone 2 2%
    alto saxophone 1 1%
    tenor saxophone 3 3%
    baritone saxophone 7 7%
    other member(s) of the saxophone family 2 2%
    recorder(s) 0 0%
    pennywhistle(s) 0 0%
    bamboo 0 0%
    other folk 0 0%
    electronic wind instrument(s) 0 0%

    How do you primarily identify yourself as a musician?

    For this question, many of you typed your own answers. Some of you wanted to provide more detail, such as which instrument(s) you consider your primary, some wanted to include non-woodwind instruments, and some wanted to use (essentially) some other synonym for woodwind doubler. In these and a few other cases, I felt that those answers did ultimately fit into one of these two categories, so I’ve shoehorned them in. A few others wanted to identify by some other career/hobby choice entirely, or wanted to say something like “it depends,” and I’ve omitted those so as not to muddy the original intent of the question.

    2021 Data
    as a woodwind doubler 192 69%
    as an instrumentalist on one specific instrument (or family of instruments, such as the saxophones) 85 31%

    2011 Data
    as a woodwind doubler 120 64%
    as an instrumentalist on one specific instrument (or family of instruments, such as the saxophones) 67 36%

    Do you have “primary” and “secondary” instruments?

    2021 Data
    One instrument is a “primary” instrument, and one or more are secondary instruments. For example, you play the flute well, and the clarinet at a noticeably lesser ability level. 113 40%
    Two or more instruments are “primary” instruments, but others are secondary. For example, you play the flute and the clarinet about equally well. 128 45%
    You consider all the instruments you play to be at/near the same level. 41 15%

    2011 Data
    One instrument is a “primary” instrument, and one or more are secondary instruments. For example, you play the flute well, and the clarinet at a noticeably lesser ability level. 85 46%
    Two or more instruments are “primary” instruments, but others are secondary. For example, you play the flute and the clarinet about equally well. 101 54%

    Which of these challenges have significantly affected your success as a woodwind doubler? Define “significantly affected” and “success” as you see fit. You may choose multiple answers.

    A few of you provided additional specifics/details, but I’ve folded those answers into the larger categories. In 2011, this was a free-form answer, and I tried to sort them into categories.

    2021 Data
    Time (such as for practicing) 186 67%
    Money (such as for equipment purchases) 162 58%
    Career development (such as finding gigs, establishing a reputation…) 117 42%
    Logistics (such as storage or transportation of instruments) 36 13%
    Pushback (such as from teachers or others who think you should not double) 48 17%
    Skill/talent/ability (such as particular difficulty with a specific instrument or technique) 86 31%
    None 22 8%

    2011 Data
    Time 49 30%
    Flute 19 12%
    Embouchure 18 11%
    Fast switches 17 10%
    Maintaining high level 16 10%
    Cost 15 9%
    Reeds 13 8%
    Oboe 8 5%
    Clarinet 7 4%
    Instrument maintenance 6 4%
    Establishing reputation 5 3%
    Bassoon 5 3%

    Which of these benefits of woodwind doubling have made a significant difference for you? Define “significant difference” as you see fit. You may choose multiple answers.

    In 2011, this was a free-form answer, and I tried to sort them into categories.

    2021 Data
    More gigs 214 77%
    Greater variety in music-making 226 81%
    Fun/satisfaction 242 87%
    Having more voices/tone colors available 183 66%
    Feeling challenged (in an enjoyable, productive, or otherwise positive way) 227 81%
    Cross-training effect (playing one instrument improves your skills at another) 183 66%
    None 2 1%

    2011 Data
    More gigs 83 52%
    Variety 46 29%
    Fun/satisfaction 32 20%
    Artistic expression 15 9%
    Cross-training 12 7%
    Challenge 8 5%

    What is/are your best woodwind doubling tip(s)?

    These are presented with only very minor edits, in random order. (Inclusion here doesn’t necessarily indicate that I agree, though I mostly do.) See 2011 results here.

    Sax tone is all about opening the throat and getting an appropriate level of pressure on the mouthpiece
    Make connections between similarities/differences from instrument family to instrument family.
    Start with the flute first in your practice sessions. If you don’t your lips will have no sensitivity after starting on the other instruments.
    Practice any woodwind instrument as if it is your primary. Walk the same path every other Xist (flautist, clarinetist, etc) has.
    Practice daily. Even if it’s just for 15 minutes, practicing my doubles daily has been the best process in my experience.
    Do not limit yourself! Have one primary but also a couple secondary instruments. You will make yourself more marketable!
    Find ways to connect your knowledge to other instruments, but still treat each instrument as its own separate voice (e.g. be a piccolo player, not a clarinetist who is playing piccolo)
    Practice and listen
    Train on each individual instrument on as regular a basis as possible.
    Finding great teachers for each instrument you play
    Consistent practice
    It’s all about tone quality. And reeds.
    Passion and love of the possibilities and not just versatility for gigging is a must. Acquiring equipment that is easy to get back into and consistent has been key for me to be able to for example: not play bass clarinet for 6 months and still be confident that I could say yes to a gig and get myself together in 1 week.
    Learn what the differences in playing styles between different instruments are, and why they come about. Knowing the context helps a lot in code-switching between instruments.
    Let clarinet be the foundation of your doubling
    take lessons with someone who has doubling experience. Practicing and familiarize yourself with all genres of music styles. practice playing multiple instruments back to back.
    Learn what skills are transferable across which woodwinds and apply them appropriately. For example, a lot of dexterity technique applies to many woodwinds, however, not all fingering patterns or standard fingerings are the same. Also, voicing and overtones apply to all woodwinds, but you don’t voice all woodwinds the same way.
    Practice – practice – practice
    Focus on fundamental on all horns
    If a particular instrument is inspiring you right now, use that inspiration and really work to improve on that instrument.
    Practice every instrument regularly
    Focus on each instrument now and then
    Practice sight reading, especially with swing/jazz rhythms. Keep on top of your reed situation. Try to design practice to “even out” your strength on each “family”.
    Practice each instrument as though it is a primary study – learn the known repertoire, study the history and the players, know the etude etc
    Have a goal to play all of the woodwind doubles at a very high level.
    Don’t be afraid to take on a challenge, especially on an instrument that is not your best
    Get a teacher for every instrument if possible- not one teacher for all of them.
    Long tones and scales with a drone/tuner
    Play flute every day, learn to make your double reeds
    Never be reluctant to schlep doubles you might need.
    Practice baby practice!!
    Voicing exactly as you describe.
    Learn on a quality instrument otherwise a lousy one will hold you back.
    Visit each instrument as its own thing when practicing. Use the same musical expression tools on your secondary instruments. Have patients when progress isn’t noticable.
    Find similarities between the instruments you already know how to play, and the instrument you are learning to double on. Ask your musician friends for tips or little known “secrets” that you may not know of a non-primary instrument.
    Open your teeth and jaw as much as possible and practical.
    Let others help you, the pit is a team and if one run is too hard and another person has it and it’s easy on their instrument. Let them do it. The audience may very well not know the difference. Or if you have a solo passage. Don’t overplay. You’re not the soloist the person on stage is. Overall. Let others help you
    Sometimes you have to go back to basics if it isn’t an instrument you’ve playing in a while and run scales or some some practice books.
    Finding similarities between each instrument to begin learning, then going to extremes to find the differences.
    Compare and Contrast each instrument – determine what transfers and what are specific to each instrument
    practice the same things on any instruments.
    Learn clarinets first, then saxophones.
    Common tip: Eb sax (like baritone sax) can read C bass clef (such as tuba, trombone, bassoon, and string bass music) as Eb treble clef without having to transpose.
    Less common tip: Once you’re comfortable with that, you can do the same with Bb clarinets (like bass clarinet) by using saxophone fingerings on the clarinet (exception being above the break, but it’s easy to get once you play it a bit). So using this you can read the bass clef parts of bassoon music on bass clarinet without having to transpose, and if the bassoon music goes into tenor clef you can read it as regular Bb treble because it works the same as reading C bass clef on an Eb sax. Blamo, you’re reading bassoon parts on bass clarinet and didn’t have to transpose or learn any new clefs.
    That they’re not all that different at the end of the day. The concept of blowing into a tube with holes in it is the same across all woodwind instruments.
    Compile a quick (approx. 5 minutes) gig warmup for each instrument type (flute, clarinet, etc.) that you play. You will rarely have time for a thorough warm up on each instrument on doubling gigs so you need something that lets you hit a number of fundamentals in a short amount of time.
    be inspired by great models on each instrument
    Learn your doubles. Get more bread
    Practice, then practice some more
    Really focus and learn the fundamentals for each instrument. I didn’t know I was playing oboe wrong until I took a lesson because I just figured everything would be similar to bassoon when I first picked it up.
    Don’t ever stop practicing. Keep a schedule.
    At different times, each instrument you play becomes your main voice— do so with love and a deep investigation of the traditions of each.
    Be adaptable/flexible and if it works don’t question it. Just because a certain way of doing something is not the standard approach does not mean it is wrong.
    Listening is key!
    Know who to tell what you play. To many people, I am an orchestral clarinetist. Some have no idea that I play jazz saxophone. To some, I am a flutist. Many know I do all three at a high level. But some may judge you.
    Whatever you are playing at the moment is, at least for the moment, your primary instrument. Treat it as such, with your full attention and consideration.
    Be an excellent sight reader. Know your scales. Work on sound production.
    Do what is comfortable for you.
    Aim for consistent mouthpiece styles. ie: a consistent ratio of sizing (small tip, long facing, etc)… don’t try to sound like David Sanborn and Harold Wright at the same time.
    Choose instruments that you like to play so that you’ll want to practice and improve on them!
    breath support
    Play everything you enjoy playing
    Treat each one as your main one while you practice.
    Get good stands, get to know the instruments you’re playing quickly
    seek teachers for each specific instrument
    Start with clarinet and maintain your skill on it.
    Take things slow! Now even slower. Be mindful.
    Listen to many. Develop your own sound.
    Practise changing from one instrument to another as well as just practising the individual horns
    Practice all at the same time.
    Good instrument stands are essential! Also a stand shelf has been really helpful for me to hold reeds and a water cup, other equipment and accessories.
    Sax and oboe have a ton in common in terms of using the reed or mouthpiece alone to train ways to avoid tension, and clarinet feels like the opposite in many ways, but at least it’s different enough that differentiation is straightforward.
    It`s okay to start each instrument as a beginner.
    Always be flexible
    Just play and have fun, and the instruments will learn themselves
    Use synthetic reeds for gigs you need to double on. Little to no warm-up/Reed wetting required when one instrument sits for a while before use.
    Treat each instrument as a new primary and get a proper teacher for each new primary. Play in ensembles on your doublers.
    They’re not the same
    Long tones and scales are key
    Everything comes back to air
    Sound is everything. Learn flexibility on every instrument. Every instrument deserves individual attention, even harmony instruments amongst families.
    Identify the connections between each instrument (fingerings, technique, etc.) and use that to help you succeed.
    Use a calendar, try your hardest to view other woodwind doublers in the area as friends instead of competition. Play duets with them and try to learn as much as you can from other doublers and single woodwind musicians as well. Classical musicians, listen to jazz saxophonists and really try to replicate their tone and inflection even if you claim it’s not for you. Jazz musicians, listen to classical woodwind players as most rep for doublers requires classical tone and technique. Have fun!
    consider the side range you enjoy the most and stick more on that end (high or low reeds)
    Take lessons with teachers who only play the one instrument, but also study with some doublers who have a good understanding of the similarities & differences between instruments. Record yourself often, and listen to recordings of top performers on your doubles to form a good sound concept. Time, intonation, interpretive choices, and ensemble balance are all-important no matter what instrument is in/on your face.
    If you’re struggling with switching to another instrument, find someone who is extremely proficient on it and pick their brains as much as possible, or even take lessons if you can. It helps if they’re a doubler too.
    1) Study to have a classical foundation for every double. It’s the best way to have solid tone and technique.
    2) Be kind to those you work with and low-maintenance for those you work for.
    3) Don’t seriously study secondary instruments until you are competent on your primary instrument. Once you hit a semi-professional or pro level on one instrument, you will have a bar to reach for with your secondaries.
    Try to draw connections where possible.
    I think one should only double if they are genuinely interested in it and enjoy challenges. I’ve met too many people who double primarily with the goal of making more money, and it almost never worked out as well for them in the long run as it did for the ones who actually loved playing all of the instruments.
    Flute is nothing like single reeds – not even the fingerings.
    Turn all instruments into your “primary”. Each instrument deserves its proper respect and diligence. If saxophone is so easy, why do so many clarinetists sound so bad? Attitude in approach to a secondary instrument goes a long way.
    it’s fine to make mistakes
    Play with people who are better than you as much as possible.
    Visualize and really hear the sound you want as you double, in whatever way works for you. Sometimes you can get caught up in the differences between the doubles, but visualizing and not overthinking allowed me to get by on many doubling gigs, and work through the parts more efficiently
    If not preparing for a specific gig or show, have an instrument of the week rotation. Focus on that one.
    Flute loses playing proficiency at a significantly faster rate than other woodwinds thanks to the extremely delicate embouchure – when a professional flutist misses 2 or more consecutive days of practice, it takes minimum 4-5 days to correct their embouchure again. So those that wish to maintain their flute fitness must make sure to set aside time for it at least every few days
    Practice, practice and practice!
    Think of each additional instrument you learn as an extension of musical mechanics— you’ve already learned the fundamentals of reading music, now you’re just learning a different pathway to create those sounds you read. Treat a new instrument, even one of the same family, as a whole new instrument with its own requirements and set points for pitch, resonance, and response.
    Always be ready to play clarinet
    Stick with one instrument per gig, if possible. Be careful of having a reputation as a doubler, as it may have negative connotations (jack of all trades, master of none).
    Take each instrument seriously
    Be proficient on clarinet first, then branch out.
    Play secondary instruments in ensembles (band, orchestra, chamber music, etc).
    Slow practice on all the instruments, don’t rush it on a “secondary” instrument because you can play it on a “primary” instrument
    Practice all your axes and always learn from everyone.
    Find an order of operations for your practice. I start my day on the flute and then move to the clarinet. When I get to tenor I am moving plenty of air and feel warmed up.

    Scale practice on flute will help saxophone playing
    Treat every instrument as a unique instrument of it’s own kind with similarities but unique.
    Lessons, performing, recording, great equipment
    Study each instrument you play with a non-doubler: major symphony/studio player.
    Practice so you concepts can benefit across all instruments.
    Take it slow
    Be very intentional when learning technique. I learned how to play saxophone with a clarinet embouchure, which is not correct. Work with a professional teacher to ensure you have the fundamentals of new instruments and check in with them regularly to ensure you are maintaining key distinctions between the instruments.
    Be cognizant of your body and the techniques you employ as you play (don’t go on autopilot); try to find complimentary mouthpiece/reed setups (if everything has a similar resistance level, switching will be easier)
    Choreograph the switches and after getting comfortable with a new double practice the switch to get faster at creating a good sound on the instrument as soon as possible.
    The goal of woodwind doubling is to be good enough on each instrument for people to think whatever instrument you are playing right now is your primary instrument, and not a double.
    Practice, listen, and be patient
    Never look for the “doubler way” to approach an instrument. Approach it as a serious study, as if you intend to make it your primary.
    Treat each instrument as if it is your primary instrument.
    Practice and take lessons. Continue to get better.
    Play the flute every day, studying with a specialist when possible
    If you have good air and support, you can play through the woodwinds without having to worry about their differences. Also, get good reeds!!!
    Put in the practice hours
    Practice. And then practice some more.
    Learn and practice the basics
    Get a teacher. You can’t learn all of these on your own.
    It’s ok to make a mistake, just keep going.
    I’ve found that taking the time to develop a woodwind practice routine has been super helpful! I’ve also found that I practice better when I start with my least proficient instrument, and work to my most proficient one. This helps me feel a bit better mentally when I practice.
    Practice lol. The sooner you learn “Work SLOWLY on what you’re bad at,” the easier your musical life will be. It’s rough, especially if you’re pretty accomplished on one instrument/family, but the slower you practice, the faster you’ll learn! Trust me, I know the feeling. I’ve got two masters degrees…but I’ve still gotta practice fairly easy flute stuff like I’m one of my 7th graders. I feel your pain! Oh and scales are your friends…all of them :)
    No matter what instrument you’re playing, no matter how much time you’ve had to switch, your goal should always be your best professional sound.
    Moderate setups for all instruments make transitioning between them less onerous
    Plastic reeds for the pit to avoid breakages
    To make sure that if this is something you choose to brand yourself as, go with it 100%
    Pick up each instrument with a new mindset as if it is your primary instrument. When I play flute, I’m a flutist. When I play oboe, I’m an oboist. Etc.
    Find a professional teacher as soon as possible instead of trying to teach yourself and (potentially) develop bad habits.
    Approach each instrument as if it is your major instrument
    Practice each a little every day and practice switching back and forth at home, not just at the gig.
    Stay w/someone who’s major instrument is your double.
    High quality tuition from specialists in each instrument, excellent sight-reading, good fundamentals, good air support across the board (!), familiarity with as many styles as possible
    While there are some universal fundamentals, each instrument (even within an instrument family) has unique characteristics that at the very least need their own mindset. Once you figure out the key differences, the things that are the same take care of themselves.
    Treat each instrument as if it is your major instrument.
    – Take regular (weekly/bi-weekly) lessons with excellent teachers on each instrument that you wish to play at a high level
    – Focus on improving one instrument at a time (ex. for three months taking flute lessons and primarily practicing flute, while lighter practicing + preparing for gigs on clarinet and saxophone)
    – Own high quality equipment and keep it in good repair
    Learn to be a performer on all of your instruments, not just a person who dabbles on the others!
    Learn each instrument as if you know nothing about how to play and learn to play it correctly from the beginning
    Play whatever instrument you enjoy the most. For example, don’t double on flute as a sax player just because you feel you have to. Play the recorder and contrabassoon, or celeste and guitar. Do what makes you happy.
    Listen to professionals to develop your best sound and practice your secondaries similarly to your primaries. Don’t be afraid to ask others for advice to improve your playing. Scales are good for everyone.
    Learn to play cross genre music on each doubling instrument. This will increase your career viability tenfold.
    “Book yourself on gigs you’re not quite ready for” – Don’t take the piss and lie in such a way that you’ll be unable to give a good show. But do book gigs where you are almost good enough but not quite yet. This gives you the motivation to reach that next step in your practice, and forces you to get better. Nothing to make you practice like an upcoming show!
    Don’t stop practicing.
    I would say treating your double as your primary horn (using the same techniques you used on your primary to learn). If you did scales, arpeggios, tone exercises, do the same on your double.
    Say “Yes!”
    Don’t have your instrument just be a work colleague. Noodle around and get to know them sometimes without a particular goal.
    I always say, “view playing each instrument like speaking a different language. They have similar qualities as Winds, but each one requires a different mindset and physical setup.”
    Think of each instrument separately, don’t try to transfer technique from one to another.
    Compartmentalize your brain. (eg. When I hold a saxophone, I can’t easily tell you much pedagogically about anything else)
    Take lessons on your secondary instruments with established teachers. Practice all of the music before the first rehearsal (especially for your secondary instruments).
    Try not to sound like a saxophonist playing a clarinet. Try to sound as much as a clarinetist as possible.
    The principles of tone production on single reed instruments are all the same, and that is more important to stress than the particulars of what will happen to achieve that on each instrument. e.g. the saxophone and clarinet embouchure will look different but for either all you need to do is make a seal with no unnecessary pressure or biting that minimally dampens the vibration of the reed
    Don’t get too bogged down in the beginning/intermediate stages with perfecting any technique or piece of music. It’s probably more important to read a variety of music so that you are reinforcing a bunch of different techniques in a bunch of different scenarios. It makes it more real world, forces you to discover and engage with more of the instruments strengths/weaknesses, and I think it makes you learn faster too because you see things in more different places
    Get a good teacher
    Off the top of my head: STYLE; maintain your instruments well; be good with your finances and set aside a little money each month for new instruments, upgrades, accessories, reeds, repairs, etc.
    Legere reeds are great for doublers!
    Study instruments with teachers on that primary instrument (flute with a flutist, etc)
    Show up confidently prepared!
    Treat every instrument as it’s own when you start. Just cause you play saxophone doesn’t mean it’s a golden ticket for you being good at anything else.
    Practice!
    Spend a reasonable amount of time on rudiments for your weakest, or non-native, instrument. Then spend an equal amount of time goofing around on the same instrument.
    Synthetic reeds help with quick instrument changes, especially when the new instrument hasn’t been played for several minutes.
    Which ever instrument is in your hand, practice/play it like it is your primary/only instrument
    Master the basics of all your doubles.
    You have to really want to do it. Nothing is wrong with not woodwind doubling ie. focussing on just one instrument. The opposite can also be true.
    Study with a specialist on that instrument
    Good instruments help a lot.
    Study each instrument privately with someone who is highly accomplished.
    Never neglect the basics when learning a new instrument. Long tones and scales are universally important for learning tone and technique, and those don’t usually cross over between instruments
    Take lessons/listen/get the tone, intonation and musicality right and let the fingers work themselves out.
    Don’t allow the mentality of being a doubler lessen your goals toward sounding you are a specialist on the horn in your hands.

    Even if you never sound like Tim McAllister (or whoever), be proud of your versatility: doubling has opened doors for me that specializing on a single instrument would have never done.

    You may never arrive at what your musical ear wants to hear from your own playing, but enjoy the never-ending growth, exploration and discovery that comes along with chasing that ideal.
    Practice your instrument switches!
    Treat each instrument as if it is your primary, learning all of its specifics. Take good lessons to sure up lesser instruments, no matter how old you are. Practice!
    have fun
    Master one instrument before adding more.

    Thanks again for your participation and stay tuned for more survey results.

  • Keeping your fingers “close”

    ByBret Pimentel

    There’s a common idea with woodwind players and teachers that it’s important to keep your fingers close to the keys. Keeping the fingers within a certain reasonable distance does have benefits:

    • It’s easier to keep track of where the keys are and not “miss,” especially for beginners
    • Allowing the fingers to rise too far can introduce tension into the hands

    But I think finger-closeness is a concept that gets over-taught and over-stressed. It seems to be motivated by a desire for finger speed (or some euphemism like “fluidity”).

    Assuming the fingers are within a reasonable range, I think working toward extreme closeness probably doesn’t offer much if any speed increase, but does make tension more likely. It’s a micro-optimization only worth thinking about when you’ve solved every other problem with your technique, and even then your results may differ on whether it’s productive (or even counterproductive). Definitely don’t stress out your beginning students over it.

    Try this if you like: bring a finger down onto a key from, say, 1-2mm above the key (about the thickness of a couple of credit or ID cards). Then try from ten times that distance, 1-2 cm (the width of a fingernail or two). What do you notice about speed? How about tension?

    Keep the fingers close enough to stay in position and not bend backward, but don’t worry too much about dialing in extreme closeness.

  • Raphael Sanders: Doubling the clarinets

    ByBret Pimentel

    A few tips on doubling on various sizes of clarinets, from Raphael Sanders, clarinet professor at SUNY Potsdam.

  • Should I buy something new?

    ByBret Pimentel

    Changing your instrument, mouthpiece, headjoint, reeds, etc. on a frequent basis isn’t productive, but sticking with the same equipment forever isn’t a virtue either. Here are some questions to ask yourself (or a trusted teacher or colleague) when you start feeling the itch to spend money on shiny new things:

    • Does this new equipment make it easier or more comfortable to do what I do? Or am I hoping it will magically endow me with abilities I didn’t have before?
    • Does this materially improve some concrete aspect of my playing, like intonation, response, dynamic range or finger movement? Is it an improvement that is more subjective, fleeting, or malleable, like tone quality? (Tone quality isn’t nothing when purchasing woodwind gear, but it’s not everything, either.)
    • Does this really change how I sound? Does it change how it feels to play, physically? Does it change how it feels to play, emotionally? (All of these can be valid reasons to change, but it’s worth sorting out what’s really changing.)
    • Is this new equipment appealing in some way that is more about appearance or cachet than playability? Is that worth the investment to me? Would I be sacrificing some playability for bling factor?
    • How did I come to desire this particular item? Was I influenced by advertising, celebrity endorsements, a commissioned salesperson, an internet stranger, or someone/something else that might have motivations separate from my success? Was I happy with my current setup before I learned of this product’s existence?

    If you’re currently a student, be sure to check in with your teacher before any new gear purchase!

6 Comments

  1. I started as a Bari/bass clarinet/clarinet guy. I got those books in musicals all of the time. I decided to get serious on flute and picc, and now I always get Reed I gigs. I miss playing bass clarinet; I almost never play it now.

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  2. I think it’s better to start clarinet before starting saxophone. It seems to be much easier to learn the precision required for clarinet embouchure and finger hole coverage and then move to saxophone, which requires less precision (except at very high levels, of course), than the reverse course. I know people who have done the saxophone-to-clarinet thing and gotten quite good at clarinet, but it was very difficult for them.

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  3. Nice article ! The irony is, I’m having my first flute lesson today, and according to your article, I couldn’t have chosen better.
    The problem is that up to know I haven’t really explored the other “family instruments” like the bass clarinet or the 3 other saxophones.
    I’d actually like your opinion on this : do you think that I should get my hands on those instruments early on or that it can wait and will be learnt more easily than picking up a brand new instrument like I’m doing with the flute today ?

    Thanks again for your wonderful and inspiring blog !

    Pierre

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    1. Again, I would say it really depends on what you are motivated to do, perhaps with a sprinkling any of the above factors that apply to you (employability, profitability, etc.). Good luck!

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  4. An interesting and accurate article.
    I earned my crust as a woodwind doubler, mainly in theatre pits. I had auditioned for music college, (52 years ago) on my only instrument, clarinet. There were 150 clarinetists trying for 4 places—but no bassoonists. The auditioning panel said they would accept me only if I changed to bassoon; which I sensibly did. After 4 years at college, I was lucky that only one other woodwind doubler in London played bassoon and knew about jazz phrasing’ And that situation continued for 30 years! In a mega-competitive profession I was hardly ever out of work.
    One comment on the doubles for bassoon. Arrangers think, “Bassoon, therefore bass clarinet, baritone.” All low instruments. I wished they think instead, “Bassoon, a large instrument, therefore we’ll give him alto sax and flute as doubles. Then he can have some room in the pit and he can change from one instrument to another quickly.”

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  5. I’m enjoying this discussion. My journey in “what to play next” has not been typical. I only played saxophones until I got to college. I started oboe “under the gun” almost. The failing health of an oboe player at college created an immidiate need for someone else to step up. Now, 30 years later, I’ve added clarinet and flute, but double reed playing gets me in the door for most gigs I do. I’m a music educator, so playing in pits and bands is a side thing for me. Can’t imagine life without it, though.

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