Woodwind Doubler Census results, part 3: education and training

More results from the Great Woodwind Doubler Census of 2011. Enjoy!

Education and training

Q: Which of these have been part of your education on woodwind instruments?

Out of 187 total respondents, every one answered this question. The complete wording of the possible responses was as follows:

  • school band/orchestra program (high school or younger)
  • private lessons outside of school
  • summer camps, workshops, or other formal programs outside of school
  • university band/orchestra program
  • university/conservatory bachelors degree with concentration(s) in multiple woodwinds
  • university/conservatory bachelors degree with single-instrument or other music concentration
  • university/conservatory masters degree with concentration(s) in multiple woodwinds
  • university/conservatory masters degree with single-instrument or other music concentration
  • university/conservatory doctoral degree with concentration(s) in multiple woodwinds
  • university/conservatory doctoral degree with single-instrument or other music concentration
  • other university/conservatory music degree or certification
  • self-taught on one or more instruments

The biggest surprise to me was the number claiming bachelors degrees in multiple woodwinds. I assume that many of these must be double majors or other oddities, since there are very few true bachelors degree programs in multiple woodwinds available.

Q: How did you get involved in woodwind doubling?

I wanted the responses to this question to be free-form, since I anticipated a wide variety of answers. Most of the answers, however, fell into some broad categories. Below is a chart of the most common answers, based on my own loose interpretation of them. Many of the answers represented more than one category.

A little explanation:

  • Interest: Many respondents indicated that plain and simple interest in multiple instruments was a factor in their choice to start doubling.
  • Jazz, musical theater, concert band/orchestra, marching band: Many respondents listed jazz playing, especially big band playing, as a primary reason for doubling. Some of these were saxophonists who branched out to double on flute and/or clarinet, but some were non-saxophonists who took up the saxophone for jazz-playing opportunities. A large number mentioned musical theater as a motivator. Some also picked up a secondary instrument (or more) because of a desire to play in a concert band, orchestra, or marching band in which they couldn’t play their primary instrument.
  • Employability: I’ve only counted those answers that mentioned employability or gigs explicitly, although this factor is probably implicit in a majority of the responses.
  • Ensemble need: Some respondents learned to play additional instruments due to needs of ensembles in which they were already members (“My school band needed a bassoonist…”).

I’m including all the responses below. They are unedited except that I have removed names of people and some places and institutions (my edits are in [square brackets]). The order is random since I couldn’t come up with a reasonable way of organizing them; I found them to be an interesting read anyway.

  • required at my university.
  • I have a reputation, and I don’t let people down.
  • necessity
  • My woodwind teacher who also doubled started me doubling on clarinet, flute and saxophone at the age of 12.
  • Someone who knew me as a sax player found out I could play clarinet
  • urged to by professors while playing in [university] lab bands (jazz big band)
  • Self taught flute and clarinet, then oboe, sax and bassoon. Started playing in shows at age of 12. Went on from there. Now mostly concentrate on oboe, english horn, oboe d’amore and contra bassoon.
  • I was offered a gig involving more than my primary instrument.
  • Picked up my friend’s sax one day to check for a leaky pad
  • In high school I played mostly saxophones, and come musical time I wanted to play in the pit. I sat playing tenor and clarinet while an oboist had sat next to me for the entire show to play about 4 songs and a few incidental parts. I figured out then, I’d like to be able to cover entire books by myself. Picked up flute over the next few years with a private teacher, and would basically cover a lot of the low reed books, and did that well enough that I got called to do more than just my own school.
    Since then I’ve played a variety of community musicals, helped with school musicals. I now also play in a variety of groups that appreciate the change in sound by putting down the sax and playing flute.
  • During High School, I played bassoon in concert band and saxophone in marching and jazz.
  • Just happened…played clarinet in the school band, and sax in the jazz band…
  • I playked in my community theater, and soon realized that the clarinet was almost always required. (in my first show, Guys and Dolls, I had to transpose some of the bass clarinet parts to tenor sax). So I bought a clarinet , even though I hadn’t played in over 30 years, got a good teacher and have played in about16 shows since. I now also play bass clarinet.
  • High school musicals
  • I really wanted to play pit in high school and needed to double to do so.
  • Played saxophone and clarinet from almost the same time—in HS played both in ensembles. At the Conservatory, played both in classical and jazz ensembles and giged on flute—became serious about flute in my late 20s.
  • the first show i did was guys and dolls when i was 16 on tenor and clarinet.
  • I wanted to play in my school’s musicals, and to be able to cover my book indepentently and competently. I also really wanted to pursue the oboe, which I have brought up to about the same skill level as my primary instrument, the clarinet
  • Started out on Clarinet and dropped it when I began clarinet. Picked up the clarinet many 6 or so years later and began dabbling with it.
  • It started out in junior high for me a friend wanted to learn how to play flute and I wanted to learn how to play oboe. The next thing I knew I was playing clarinet in high school and picked up saxophone in my first year of undergraduate study and I continue to do so today. I think it started as feeling like I hit a brick wall in my primary instrumental work and needed something to get my drive back again or a challenge really to prove I could play another.
  • Big Bands when I was in High School. The need for a strong player on multiple instruments (also in High School)
  • In grade school, I found myself more interested in other woodwind instruments, so I began to teach myself to keep myself entertained.
  • Jazz band in high school.
  • I’ve always wanted to play multiple instruments but never had the resources. I am in a position now to do so and have spent the last ten years indulging myself.
  • When there was some instrument I wanted to learn as a kid, I annoyed those in charge until they let me try.
  • Wanted to play more than one instrument
  • From my private music teacher growing up – she suggested that I add and ‘switch’ instruments along the way.
  • Love to blow.
  • Boredom through high school actually. I started my musical career as a violinist throughout middle (and high-) school. Got to high school and decided I wanted to learn another instrument after already having learned all the string instruments. The oboe chose me, and from there I learned a new instrument each year.
  • Had some teachers who were doublers.
  • after playing saxes for a few years, I decided to take up clarinet playing so that I could play in an orchestra. There have been various times when I have played both in the same gig, mainly in the pit orchestra of school productions and when big band parts call for something other than sax.
  • Started on clarinet. In HS, bought a saxophone from someone who was upgrading.
  • My youth orchestra needed a bass clarinetist, so I learnt it, and then I wanted to play saxophone in my high school’s sax ensemble, so I taught myself.
  • I couldn’t play bassoon in marching band during high school and didn’t want to play percussion, so I learned the saxophone. As I started doing jazz band in high school, I needed to learn clarinet for some pieces.
  • Father’s advice at first (he was also a doubler (violin/reeds). Paid my way through school playing in an R&B band, and in folkie coffee houses.
  • My band had too many flutes for graduation, so he put me on alto saxophone. After that I learned oboe and have played mostly oboe and some flute.
  • I was fortunate enough to get a lot of pit orchestra work in undergrad. That inspired me to take secondary lessons and eventually a second degree. It just seemed appropriate to continue in the same direction.
  • high school marching band, dance band gigs
  • As an over-achieving band geek in high school.
  • through the army, and contacts from fellow musicians
  • It was suggested that I would be more likely to get a teaching job if I played clarinet. Once I started on that, I tried saxophone, then thought I’d give oboe a go, then moved to bassoon.
  • My band teacher asked me in 7th grade if I’d be interested in playing saxophone in the jazz band the following year after I had demonstrated my ability on flute. I picked up saxophone over the summer and joined the following year. I had to KEEP adding to my arsenal and the following summer picked up clarinet (and trumpet) and the rest is history.
  • Big Band section playing and pit work
  • taught myself bassoon to be in the pitt orchestra for our high schools production of into the woods and alto saxophone to be in the schools jazz band
  • At Interlochen Music Camp in the mid 1950s as a student. For a scholarship, they offered Bass Clarinet & Contra in the Band for a partial tuition.
  • Started on clarinet in 5th grade, added alto sax in 7th to play in jazz ensemble. Pretty much dropped clarinet in 9th, but took serious sax lessons from one of the great doublers in town. He got me back playing clarinet and flute. Learned bassoon in college as part of doubling program.
  • Wanted to play with my kids, who were string players. Couldn’t do that with a sax, so I took up the flute.
  • My teacher insisted
  • I never liked quitting things, so after I took flute lessons for a few years, I started playing oboe, too. Then, I realized when I started playing in high school musicals that there were more options for shows if I played MORE instruments. Thus, the obsession was born.
  • I started on sax in 4th grade and eventually picked up clarinet in high school because it seemed like a good thing to do. My first doubling gig was “Bye Bye, Birdie” my sophomore year. I then learned about how valuable it is to know at least sax/clar/flute, so I picked up flute. The other woodwinds naturally followed after that.
  • Needed wife the clarinetist to play sax so agreed to learn clarinet. She has made way more progress than I have.
  • I started on clarinet (actually piano before that). A local musician who worked with my father on his day gig, but a bug in his ear that I should learn to play saxophone when I was in 8th grade. I picked tenor, but later on I missed out on some jobs because I didn’t have an alto, so that’s when I realized that more instruments meant I could play more jobs.
  • I began playing my second family of instruments (saxophones) in order to join Jazz Band in middle school, and later extended to bass clarinet and flute in order to be able to perform as many musicals as I could.
  • I was given a bass clarinet part to play in orchestra in graduate school, so I had to learn! Thankfully I love playing auxiliaries!
  • My primary saxophone teacher was a woodwind player.
  • I was called to do a show by someone who had casual knowledge of my playing.
  • After 3 years of playing saxophone, a clarinet player was needed in my church orchestra, and the director let me borrow his clarinet and taught me a little bit. I got interested enough that I kept playing it. Eventually I had to learn flute in college as a jazz saxophone player.
  • My private teacher had a flute class in the summer that I took. I didn’t know any better — he just said that we were going to learn flute, so I followed directions!
  • I started alto sax in 3rd grade and really liked it. I’d heard my uncle playing English horn and I wanted to play that too, so i started oboe in 4th grade. I tried clarinet in 4th grade too, but my fingers were too short to reach the keys. in 6th grade, i was so bored with the middle school band that I didn’t want to play either the oboe or sax parts in it. so I volunteered to play bassoon just to entertain myself.
  • self interest
  • College teachers who were all pros explained how important it was to double.
  • Interest in playing saxophone after long period of clarinet playing – mainly to explore jazz styles more
  • playing my first show as a senior in HS
  • Around 7th grade I wanted to switch from clarinet to obe. My band director asked if I wouldn;t rather play the bassoon – I said “sure, what’s a bassoon?” So I stared playing it in 7th grade. In my sophmore yeard of High School, I wanted to play something other than clarinet, so I pick up bari sax for marching and jazz band.
  • Job requiremet
  • I began playing the clarinet when I was in sixth grade, and decided I wanted to play everything else, too, after my grandmother bought me a Time Life set of classical music tapes, so the next year in 7th grade, when I moved to a school district with a GREAT music program and owned double reeds, I took out an oboe and a bassoon, bought a flute, and started learning everything. Sax, ironically, came last (and is still the instrument I care about the least.)
  • For teaching
  • i wanted to play more instruments
  • I played saxophone in band in high school and wanted to get involved in the orchestra. Because of the lack of saxophone parts in orchestral literature, I picked up bassoon so I could participate.
  • When I started flute, my friend was playing clarinet so while practicing we would sometimes switch instruments. That got me hooked. I started staying after school and trying all the instruments that were available. I picked up sax the next year for jazz band. Played my first musical “Two by Two” a year or two after that where I had to double flute, piccolo, and clarinet. (I also played several brass instruments well…euphonium, trombone, and french horn. Didn’t continue with anything but woodwinds and french horn after high school though.)
  • There was a need for more clarinets in the band program where I am at. So, I filled the need.
  • I went back to school to study jazz saxophone. My instructor(s) all told me I needed to play all the flutes/clarinets in order to get work. So I took a flute lesson for two semesters to get started there (self taught since then), and I bought a clarinet (on which I’ve never had a lesson). Things went downhill from there (ha ha) and I now own/play all 4 major saxes, clarinet/bass clarinet, flute/piccolo, and now an oboe. I am now enrolled in a masters program called Woodwind Performance & Pedagogy, which will require sax/flute/clarinet/oboe/bassoon study. I’m just finishing my first term on oboe. Great axe. Fun to play.
  • spur of the moment decision to add a saxophone and then flute when I decided that I wanted to work towards becoming a woodwind teacher.
  • I played around with different instruments in high school but I really became serious about doubling in college when I transferred to a new university and the sax prof wouldn’t let me in as a saxophone major. So I decided to be a flute major instead. After college, my first professional gigs were in musical theatre and thus it begun.
  • In high school, to prepare for a degree in jazz saxophone, I was told I should learn flute and clarinet as well.
  • It really started with wanting to become a band director. I figured I could teach the reeds better if I learned at least one other. Then I joined the Navy band program when I was 20. I already doubled on sax and flute, but my recruiter told me all the flute billets had been filled. If I wanted to enlist as a musician, I would have to audition on clarinet. She was wrong, but I picked up a clarinet anyway and after 3 months of practice I was able to pass an audition. While in the Navy, I picked up bassoon to help fill out the reed section and oboe came sometime later when I was told I could pick up more gigs in [city].
  • I started playing some other woodwinds just for fun in middle school and high school and really enjoyed it, so I continued playing and studying the various instruments.
  • High school jazz band needed an alto sax player ASAP, so I picked it up in a week or two. Flute was self-taught, and has been a long, slow process.
  • Liked bass clarinet in middle school, then bassoon. It was all downhill after that…
  • Introduced by a friend from a Jazz band to a local show that needed a Tenor sax/clarinet doubler.
  • General insterest
  • I started playing doubles in high school because I knew I would need them for jazz band in college. When I was in college, I knew I would need doubles to put food on the table working as a professional musician.
  • Highschool musical theatre, jazz band doubling.
  • Musical shows
  • I started branching out from sax in high school, and played musicals that required doubling. In college I played oboe in the concert band, sax in the jazz band, and flute in the marching band. Once I graduated from college, I started working at local theaters.
  • In high school, I decided I wanted to play in the jazz band, so I started playing the tenor sax, then I started playing in pit orchestras, which I loved and had a ‘small’ goal of being able to play a whole book myself, so I started trying to learn the clarinet.
  • Musicals and jazz band in high school
  • Flute part in a jazz band chart in high school.
  • I played alto saxophone in middle school and when I got to high school we needed more bassoonists so I volunteered. In the jazz bands I switched to larger saxophones and needed to learn some clarinet.
  • First double was the bassoon, which I took up in high school. Clarinet and flute were added because of personal interest.
  • My college instructor started giving me his jobs as he started slowing down
  • I began bassoon lessons during the second year of my master’s degree program because I wanted to be eligible to apply for double reeds teaching positions in academia after completion of my doctorate.
  • I first became involved when I wanted to be heard in my high school pep band. The obvious solution was to play baritone sax instead of clarinet. I also wanted to play jazz, which meant I needed to play more saxophone. Throughout my undergrad, I added more horns to the mix. I was a clarinet major who played sax, then added flute, bassoon, and oboe. My private sax teacher is also a woodwind specialist and he has been a huge role model for me. I just love all the woodwinds, so it’s hard for me to even imagine giving up one.
  • Playing and conducting musicals!
  • Started playing “pit” shows in High School.
  • Music Education degree
  • I was bored in HS music class.
  • I thought all reed players were suppose to double…?
  • I switched from clarinet to saxophone my freshman year in high school (mainly because the sax players got more attention than clarinet players), but always enjoyed the clarinet as much as sax. also back when I was in high school, the ‘in’ thing was to play soprano sax and flute.
  • Necessity
  • My very first private teacher encouraged me to learn the flute and clarinet.
  • My dream as a child was to play flute, but 4 out of 5 girls from my solfege class in the music school wanted to learn flute and because I was stubborn, I chose the clarinet. When I started having doubts about the clarinet at the age of 15, I started with flute lessons (which eventually I liked less, but it made me realise again how much I love clarinet). I started playing saxophone when we had one laying around in the rehearsal room of my town’s wind band, and soprano and alto recorder when I started to teach formal music education in a school which uses the Kodaly system (part of the lessons is playing recorder and Orff-instruments). In the future I would like to perfect my flute and saxophone playing, buy a saxophone and an Eb-clarinet, and therefore become a semi-profesional woodwind doubler (unfortunately in Europe we don’t have degrees for doubling).
  • As a saxophone player I wanted to become more marketable.
  • Started playing bass clarinet (instead of oboe) for marching band in HS, switched to tenor sax and then bari. Focused on oboe for college but after it seemed like people wanted me to play additional things all the time, so I complied.
  • Big band rehearsals started to have music written for multiple instruments. I had to play them to stay afloat
  • Played with many bands and found it a requirement. The other reason was I was just interested in doing it.
  • I had a reed book for a show thrust into my hands and it included clarinet, bass clarinet, and some baritone sax. I had two months to get up to speed on the sax.
  • Love clarinet and love playing in shows – The clarinet is the backbone of the reed parts but you need more to be usefull and in demand.
  • Simply decided to act on a life-long passion and began playing 19 years ago as an adult.
  • [Teacher] at [university] inspired me to take doubling seriously and provided me with a solid foundation for all the woodwinds via his methods class. Even though I was not required to take it as part of my performance degree, I felt that was one of the most valuable courses I could have taken.
  • I played clarinet, my brother played sax, I took some time to learn how to play, followed by the flute and bassoon while in high school.
  • By pure chance – played in a show as a teenage, noticed how the parts had lots of instruments, started learning the flute for fun.
  • my grandfather was a studio musician/woodwind player
  • I started playing bassoon, self taught in high school, then played in community band. Later I took a single reeds course designed to gain basic facility on sax/clarinet in order to teach it. Shortly after that I started playing musicals which was a sort of full-immersion learning experience.
  • Sax in big band to flute and clarinet. I played oboe in HS, but didn’t touch one for over 30 years until my wife dragged me into a symphonic band.
  • I began on clarinet, and my first major teacher (a [university] doubler himself) told me my hands were to big. He switched me to bassoon. It went all down the drain from there. ;)
  • Played oboe for show that had barely any oboe at all! (Throughly Modern Millie – Reed 3)
    Inspired me to learn tenor, clarinet, and soprano. Then my adventures started from there.
  • Jazz band required some clarinet in addition to saxophone. So I picked up the clarinet after a few years hiatus
  • playing with rock bands
  • Playing shows.
  • Through education and having to teach other instruments. When I was in undergrad, though my major was musicology, I was involved in a lot of teaching, which required me to get comfortable on the entire set.
  • When studying with [instructor], he made it clear that if I wanted to eat as a woodwind player, I should start working on my doubles right away.
  • Picked up the oboe one day and haven’t stoped
  • HS band teacher was seeking oboe players and I (a flute player) was adventurous. I love the sound of oboe and have returned to it as an adult.
  • playing in stage band and band in jr. hi and hi school
  • While working on a Clarinet Performance Undergraduate degree, I learned to play a modicum of Saxophone one afternoon to sub for a Saxophone player at a dance gig that same evening (paid $15, a not inconsiderable amount of $ to a poor college student in late 1960s). Later I was chosen to play Bassoon, and in 6 weeks learned to play well enoiugh to be invited to play in local semi-professional Orchestra (Brahms 3rd Symphony was my Baptism by fire), and picked up Flute when my Woodwind Doubler/Clarinet Professor took a year sabbatical to finish his Doctorate in WW Doubling ([university]) as a Flute teacher was hired to teach at the small college I was attending. I then took oboe lessons as a secondary elective during Master Degree study.
  • Jazz Band
  • out of need for money….
  • The need for doubling in musical theater books.
  • My first double was clarinet. My teacher suggested that I should learn a transcription of a romantic era clarinet sonata in our saxophone lessons. I decided to learn it on clarinet in addition to saxophone as a challenge to myself. I also began to learn flute and oboe out of necessity as a middle school band director, and continued to practice these instruments in graduate school.
  • My private teacher in college emphasized the importance of professional sax players to be able to double.
  • School wanted a sax player, then picked up sister’s old flute. Then school wanted piccolo player. Found out there were shows where people actually played them all and kept at it.
  • Productions in college that used my ability to play multiple instruments.
  • I was always drawn to it.
    In highschool, I played tenor and bari sax in the jazz band. I randomly picked up clarinet when a concert band I played in had no clarinets so I learned it on the fly. I also had to play alto sax and tenor sax in band class because we had no saxes but me.
    In university, I showed up with the mission to get really serious about doubling and learn all I could. I studied with several of the top professional doublers in the city and played 9 instruments in 15 ensembles during my 4 year degree. I enjoy doubling and I want to play professional music theatre/big band etc. so I made that my “thing” in university.
  • My high school and college teachers encouraged me to take up the saxophone and flute to perform in jazz ensembles and pit orchestras.
  • Church orchestra needed an oboist. I jumped at the opportunity.
  • at first it was to play clarinet as “straight” only and sax as “jazz” only in H.S. After graduation and finding out I enjoyed pits, I picked up more instruments to get more pit gigs.
  • My band teacher in high school asked when I was still in middle school if I wanted to play bassoon along with clarinet, to which I eagerly agreed. Then a couple years later he convinced me to take up tenor sax for jazz band.
  • listening to Benny Goodman at age 11 – started on sax, soon added clarinet
  • Through my band director, he wanted me in his symphonic band and then his jazz band; to be his lead alto.
  • I really wanted to play in my middle school jazz band when I started playing the saxophone, and the director made a comment that the best big band saxophonists also play clarinet and flute. I think he was trying to encourage some of the (too many) saxophonists to switch to clarinet, which there weren’t enough of in the band program. But, I took it to heart, and within the year took up flute and clarinet just as seriously as saxophone. My sister played oboe, and I did not want to compete with her, so I didn’t take that up until much later, when she quit playing.
  • Started playing flute when my younger sister did. Played for fun and then in college played one Sondheim show doubling flute/clarinet. Clarinet has been primary. Started adding sax (alto and soprano) about 5 years ago when we needed a tarogato sound for an ethnic performance. I play mainly Balkan music so alto sax is a great double.
    I also play whistles and a tiny amount of duduk.
  • I started clarinet in sixth grade; in ninth grade, my band director handed me an alto sax so I could play in the school “dance band” – a big band which had to be, according to official school policy, all male except for the singer! I started fiddling with flute in college so I could try to play the flute doubles in the stage band bari sax book (and to try to wheeze and sputter through “Color My World” with the rock band I was playing keyboards and tenor with!). Then, in the Air Force, I took up bassoon with the help of a very capable doubler in the band whose principal instrument was bassoon, and I actually took over the bassoon slot in the band when he was discharged. (I still couldn’t play anywhere near as well as he did, but it was a terrific experience!) The ethnic woodwinds came much later, when my brother-in-law gave me a pennywhistle (a Mel Bay!) for Christmas and then my cousin brought me a Xun back from China. And so it goes…most recent additions: a quena and quenacho, courtesy of the same cousin and his South American trip!
  • Initially played brass (trumpet/flugelhorn) until I split my lip in high school. Took up the flute (self taught) while waiting for the lip to heal and never left it. Continued brass (plus the woodwinds) for awhile but decided to focus exclusively on woodwinds about 10 years ago (after 35+ years of brass playing).
  • Professional gigging. 20+ years in the USAF bands.
  • broadway professors
  • I realized that I could play other instruments well enough to cover the multi-woodwind parts in local high school musicals. I then began to develop these skills more until I felt that I was able to market myself as a doubler.
  • It arose out of necessity.
  • Seemed like a good idea
  • jazz band in high school
  • I was made section leader of clarinet for marching band, and I was a saxophone player. I bought a clarinet and decided to learn. As performances with strange instrumentation would come up, I decided to give each instrument a shot. My teachers thought I showed some sort of natural talent for picking up new instruments and maintaining proficiency on them, and pushed me in that direction. I also fell in love with the unique challenges of doubling.
  • Through adult community banda when opportunities arise
  • I played clarinet/bass clarinet in Junior High, and the jazz band director asked me to be a part of the jazz ensemble on baritone saxophone the next year in school – which lead me to take lessons on saxophone and jazz over the summer, both classical and improvisation. This would be my second family of instruments. Then, in high school, my band director suggested I learn bassoon, and had me study with one of the NY area’s greatest lower woodwind doublers. Finally, I began to dabble in flute in college and am working hard to get good enough to become more fluent in flute performance.
  • friends
    opportunities to play
  • My goal has been to teach both bassoon and oboe at the college level, to give students opportunities I did not have (at a small school, my bassoon teacher was a clarinetist). It has been extremely satisfying performing at a high level on both horns, and only occassionally terrifying!
  • private teacher in high school got me started on flute and clarinet

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    The Colorado Symphony Orchestra, like so many others, is facing a financial crisis that threatens its ability to continue making music. An opinion piece in Sunday’s Denver Post criticizes the Denver Musicians’ Association (AFM Local 20-623) for its unwillingness to budge on certain elements of its agreement with the orchestra.

    The issues here are complex, and I hope that the DMA and the CSO will be able to come to a solution that is fair to all involved and that keeps the music alive. But this point in the authors’ list of complaints caught my eye:

    Musicians performing on more than one instrument receive “doubling pay.”

    I don’t have the full details of the doubling pay currently available to CSO members (though the amount doesn’t appear to be the issue here—it’s the fact that any doubling pay is offered that seems to offend). But a slightly-outdated agreement between the DMA and the Boulder Philharmonic, summarized below, shows a typical doubling pay structure, and it’s a reasonable guess that the CSO’s is identical or very similar:

    • 25% bonus for first double
    • 10% for each additional double
    • B-flat and A clarinets count as one instrument
    • Alto and tenor saxophones count as one instrument
    • Alto and bass clarinets count as one instrument
    • Piccolo, larger flutes, English horn, E-flat clarinet, contrabassoon, soprano saxophone, and saxophones larger than tenor each count as a double, even when used in common combinations (like flute plus piccolo)
    Though I am not currently a union member (due to a dearth of union gigs in my area), I frequently ask for doubling fees when negotiating my pay for gigs. Here’s why doubling fees make sense to me as a woodwind player: Read More “Doubling fees under fire in Denver”
  • Faculty woodwinds recital, Aug. 27, 2013

    Bret Pimentel, woodwinds
    Kumiko Shimizu, piano
    Nicole Davis, cello

    Works by Georg Philipp Telemann (1681–1767)

    Faculty Recital
    Delta State University Department of Music
    Recital Hall, Bologna Performing Arts Center
    Tuesday, August 27, 2013
    7:30 PM

    Program

    Sonata in A minor for oboe and basso continuo, TWV 41:a 3 (c. 1728)

    1. Siciliana
    2. Spirituoso
    3. Andante amabile
    4. Vivace

    Sonata in F major for recorder and basso continuo, TWV 41:F 2 (1728)

    1. Vivace
    2. Largo
    3. Allegro

    Sonata in F minor for bassoon and basso continuo, TWV 41:f 1 (1728)

    1. Triste
    2. Allegro
    3. Andante
    4. Vivace

    Fantasie no. 8 in E minor, TWV 40:9 (1732)

    1. Largo
    2. Spirituoso
    3. Allegro

    Concerto in A major TWV, 51:A2 (c. 1728)

    1. Largo
    2. Spirituoso
    3. Allegro

    Sonata I from VI Sonates en duo, TWV 40:118 (1738)

    1. Vivace
    2. Adagio
    3. Allegro

    Notes

    Georg Philipp Telemann (1681–1767) was a leading composer of his time, celebrated both critically and popularly. He is reputed as one of the most prolific composers of all time, with over 3,000 known works (count among his honors an entry in the Guinness Book of World Records). His output is not only staggeringly large, but also very diverse, sometimes to the chagrin of the churches that employed him; his operas and other secular projects were sometimes regarded as unseemly. Still, composers of the stature of Handel and J. S. Bach were students of his works. Read More “Faculty woodwinds recital, Aug. 27, 2013”

  • Woodwind Doubler Census 2021 results, part 5 (final): self-identification

    Thanks to all who participated in my 2021 woodwind doubling survey, and to those who helped spread the word. I’ve released the results in installments, so be sure to check out the rest.

    I got 284 responses, an improvement over 2011’s 187. The numbers for each of these questions don’t necessarily add up to exactly that number, since not everybody responded to every question.

    In the final section of the survey, I gave respondents the option to identify and tell me a little about themselves, including their names, locations, affiliations, websites, and other comments. I’m not sharing personally-identifiable information here, but I’ll respond in a general way to each question.

    What is your name?

    Almost 180 of you identified yourselves by name. It was lots of fun to scroll through see musicians I know and have worked with, who I have connected with online, and even some of my heroes and role models. And it was also very cool to see lots of names I didn’t know (yet). If you’re out there and would like to connect, I hope you will feel free to reach out.

    Where do you live?

    I’m sharing these sorted alphabetically and lightly edited.

    19047
    Ada, OK
    Ada, Oklahoma
    Archer City, Texas
    Arizona
    around Boston
    Around Raleigh, North Carolina
    Asheville, NC
    Ashland, KY
    Atlanta
    Auburn, ME
    Austin TX
    Austin, TX
    Australia
    Baltimore, MD area
    Bangkok, Thailand
    Berlin, CT
    Birmingham, England (studying)
    Bolivar, MO
    Boston
    Boston
    Boston-area
    California
    Cambridge, UK
    Canada
    Centra Michigan
    Charlotte, NC
    Chatham, Ontario, Canada
    Chicago
    Chicago Suburbs
    Chicago suburbs
    cincinnati
    Cleveland OH
    Coburg, OR (but still gig in San Jose, CA, my previous residence)
    Colorado
    Comerío, Puerto Rico.
    Connecticut
    Conroe, TX (40 miles north of downtown Houston)
    Coopersburg, PA
    Corvallis
    Covington, LA
    Currently in Tampere, Finland; usually SoCal/ SF Bay Area
    Dallas – Fort Worth Area
    Dallas, Texas
    Dallas, TX
    Dallas/Fort Worth region
    Darien, IL
    DC area
    Durant, Oklahoma / Las Vegas, Nevada
    East Bay of SF Bay Area
    East Lansing, MI
    Eastern Mass
    Eastern North Carolina
    Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
    Eugene, Oregon
    Fargo ND
    Fargo, ND
    Finger Lakes region of New York
    Florida
    Fort Worth, Texas
    Fresno, Ca.
    Germany
    Germany
    Grand Rapids, Michigan
    Greater Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Greensboro, NC
    Greensboro, NC
    Greensboro, North Carolina
    Hamels, Braughing, Hertfordshire, England
    Hampton Roas, VA
    Harrisburg, PA
    Hong Kong
    Honolulu, Hawaii
    Houston
    Houston TX
    Houston, TX
    Ihio
    Indiana
    Indianapolis
    Indianapolis
    iowa
    Iowa USA
    Jersey City
    Kanagawa, Japan* (originally from Maine)
    Kansas
    Kansas
    Kansas City metro area
    Lancaster area PA
    Lancaster, CA
    Las Vegas
    Las Vegas
    Little Rock, Arkansas
    Liverpool, NY
    London
    London
    London and Cape Town
    Long Beach, CA USA
    Los Angeles
    Los Angeles
    Los Angeles/Orange County, CA
    Madeira Beach, FL
    Manhattan and Connecticut
    Melbourne, Australia
    Melbourne, Australia
    Melbourne, Australia
    Memphis
    Memphis
    Memphis, TN
    Memphis,TN USA
    Metro Atlanta
    Miami, FL
    Miami, Florida
    Michigan
    Middleton Massachusetts
    Midwest U.S.
    Milwaukee
    Milwaukee
    Milwaukee
    Milwaukee WI
    Minneapolis
    Minneapolis, MN
    Minnesota
    Mississippi
    Mississippi
    Montgomery, AL
    Murfreesboro
    Myrtle Beach, SC
    Nashville, TN
    Nashville, TN
    Nashville, TN
    Near Eugene Oregon
    Nebraska
    Nevada
    New England, USA
    New England, USA
    New Jersey
    New Jersey
    New Jersey, US
    New Orleans
    New York
    New York City
    New York City
    New York City
    New York City Metro area
    New York, Montreal, and Florida
    New York, NY
    North Kingstown, RI
    North Texas
    Northeast Ohio/Western PA
    Northeast Tennessee
    Northeast U.S.
    Northeastern and Central Pennsylvania
    Northern California
    Norway
    NY
    NY area
    NYC
    NYC
    NYC
    Ocean Reef, Perth, Western Australia
    Ohio
    Ohio
    Oklahoma City
    Oregon
    Oregon
    Orlando, Florida
    Oxford, UK
    Pennsylvania
    Perth
    Perth, Western Australia
    Pickering, ON Canada
    Piedmont Triad Area of North Carolina
    Pittsburgh
    Pittsburgh, Pa.
    Preston, UK
    Queensland, Australia
    Reno, NV
    San Antonio
    San Antonio TX
    San Antonio, TX
    San Francisco
    San Fransisco Bay Area
    San Jose
    San Jose, CA
    San Jose, CA
    San Jose, CA
    San Jose, CA
    San Jose, CA
    San W
    Saskatchewan, Canada
    Scenic Martin, TN
    Scotland
    Scotland
    Seattle, WA
    SF Bay Area
    SF Bay Area
    SF Bay Area
    SF Bay Area
    SF South Bay Area
    SF South Bay Area
    Singapore
    SLC Utah
    South Eastern Wisconsin, USA
    southern Virginia
    Springfield, MO
    St Andrews
    St Paul/Minneapolis
    St. Louis area
    St. Louis, MO
    State College PA
    Sussex, Wi
    Tampa Florida
    Teaneck, NJ
    Tennessee
    Toronto
    Toronto
    Toronto CA -> Greensboro,NC
    Toronto, Canada
    Troy, AL
    Trumansburg, NY
    UK
    Urbana, IL (& Springfield, IL)
    Va Bch, VA.
    Washington, DC
    Washington, DC
    Washington, DC metropolitan area
    Wellington, New Zealand
    Will be moving to Denton, Texas
    Yorkton, Saskatchewan, Canada

    What is your main gig, performing group, teaching institution, etc.?

    I have edited a number of these (the asterisks are mine) in cases where, based on my best judgment, I felt strangers might be able to identify you through web searches.

    *** Big Band
    *** College/*** Community College/*** College/private studio/*** Festival Orchestra/*** Philharmonic
    *** County Schools, Freelance musician
    *** Ensemble, Broadway shows, recordings, *** College of Performing Arts
    *** Episcopal School
    *** High School (band director)
    *** Jazz Band
    *** London West End
    *** Middle School (Teacher)
    *** Musician
    *** Quartet, Goodspeed Musicals, Playhouse on Park, etc.
    *** Symphony Orchestra (Assistant Principal Bassoon/ Contrabassoon and much of the Saxophone work), teach at the University of ***, lots of studio recording sessions.
    *** Symphony Orchestra, Bassoon
    *** University graduate teaching assistant
    *** Videogame Symphony
    *** Winds, Ballet *** Orchestra
    ***Winds, ***, ***
    2nd Alto Sax, US Navy Band *** Jazz Ensemble
    6-12 band director
    A school big band
    ABRSM
    Air Force, formerly with a regional band, but now assigned a non-music job
    Alabama State University
    Band Director – High School
    Band instrument repair
    Bar gigs w/ a combo
    Before the pandemic I was regularly doing musical theatre work 3/4s of the year and also was doing a fair bit of big band playing as well. The big band and various offshoots of it play pre 1940s swing music and some smaller “Dixie” stuff so there’s a lot for me to do on clarinet. I also teach privately at a school system and a music store and was leading an after school ensemble and doing sectional work with the other bands at the school system. Those ended up being fairly evenly split, and then I would pick up various odd work at studio sessions or local bar gigs
    Big band jazz
    Broadway
    Broadway and Lincoln Center
    Broadway pits
    Certified bad*** (jk, picking up jobs when I can/doing musicals)
    Church and Various community bands
    Church Music Director
    Church of ***, Music Director and keyboardist
    Coastal Carolina University
    Community band/ musicals
    Community bands
    Community Bands – 4 of them.
    community orchestra
    Community theater
    Community wind ensemble
    Cruise ship musician (saxes, flute, piccolo, clarinet)
    Currently all virtual – mostly with the Royal Canadian Naval Reserves at ***.
    Currently RSO/VVGO/various guest player roles at Chinese orchestras in Singapore
    Currently teaching orchestra.
    DMA student at the University of ***
    Elementary Music Teacher
    Everywhere 😂
    Fargo Moorhead Community Theatre
    Free-lance musician
    Freelance
    Freelance
    Freelance musician around the west end and London
    Freelance teaching and performing
    Freelance woodwind specialist, director of local volunteer big band (Ensemble Swing Time), Singer
    Freelancer / university adjunct
    Going to the *** College of Music and Drama for Oboe Performance (with a touch of Woodwind doubling) this september
    High School
    High School Teacher
    Home based teacher
    I am a high school student at *** High School
    I attend Brandon University
    I play the flute family for the *** Symphony Orchestra
    I primarily teach private students.
    I work at *** full-time during the days, and sub regularly on Broadway on nights and weekends (under normal circumstances)
    I’m in high school so this doesn’t apply
    Instrument repair
    Instrument Repair at ***
    Jazz Big Band
    Just freelance
    Local high school and regional theater
    Local theatre groups
    Mainly in undergrad jazz band and concert band
    Mars Hill University
    Mid-*** Symphony, *** Jazz Band
    Middle school music teacher, play in local symphony and a collegiate wind orchestra
    Military Band
    Military musician and private teacher
    Missouri State University
    Music bachelors student
    Music education undergrad
    Music teacher/Teaching artist
    Musical instrument repair/orchestral oboe.
    Musical theater, church
    My band, The ***
    My online business as a content creator and educator
    National or international tours.
    No main gig during The pandemic.
    No main gig.
    None, teach at *** College, produce concerts at ***, run the *** Saxophone Quartet,
    North Carolina State University
    Nowadays it’s mostly University ensembles in Cambridge
    Performing
    Performing
    pit orchestra
    playing in musical orchestras/ bands
    Playing in musical theater pits
    Playing on Broadway
    Playing: Civic Theater and the *** Jazz Orchestra. Clarinet teacher for local school district.
    Private instructor, various big bands, west coast style combo and various pits when they come up
    private lessons at *** Music
    Private lessons teaching
    Private Studio
    Private Studio
    Private teacher & reed maker out of my home
    Private teaching studio
    Private woodwind teacher & freelance musician
    Prof. of Music, The University of ***
    Professional and community theatre pits. Too many to list.
    Professional orchestra librarian
    Professor at *** University
    Professor at NDSU
    Put work
    Recent college graduate, premed, member of *** (funk group), and jazz musician/woodwind instrumentalist
    Regional big band & GB
    Regional Broadway caliber theater productions and local hire for national tours.
    Regional theater, private lessons
    Retired
    Rockland County Concert Band
    Royal Birmingham Conservatoire (studying)
    Sam Houston state
    Saxophone with ***
    School band
    Schriener University
    Self-employed
    senior in college, about to student teach
    simpson college
    Six Flags
    Small School Band Director
    Software Engineer
    solo jazz performer
    Southwest *** Community College
    Stockton CA
    Student
    Student
    Student right now
    Substitute teacher specializing in music
    Teach at ***. Play gigs w/my jazz combo.
    Teacher (Elementary)
    Teaching and free lancing.
    Teaching and instrument repair
    Teaching at a school(still a uni student)
    Teaching Bassoon Lessons
    Teaching middle school band
    teaching private lessons
    Teaching the reed studio at *** University.
    Teaching: *** Music (lesson studio and music store) | Playing: *** (amusement park) Dixieland Band
    The *** Quartet (baritone chair), freelancer/soloist, Orchestra of ***
    Theater
    Theater Musician
    Theatre
    There are several
    Touring Musician (Broadway shows)
    UNC Charlotte
    Univ. of ***, *** Technical College
    University adjunct professor, Broadway touring shows (local hire) and local theater company.
    University as a student
    University New Music Ensemble
    University of *** *** Society (the musical theatre society)
    University of Nevada, Reno
    University of North Carolina School of the Arts
    University of Oregon
    University of Texas at San Antonio/private lessons (self employed)
    University Professor an conductor
    University student with some private teaching and freelancing
    US Army Musician
    US Navy Pacific Fleet Band
    Varies
    VVGO, RSO, UFB – virtual ensembles.
    WAAPA – Western Australian Academy of Performing Arts
    Weddings
    Western Australian Academy of Performing Arts
    Will be attending UNT
    Youngstown State University

    What is your website address?

    Lots of you shared websites. In cases where I could locate a relevant and reasonably-fresh RSS feed, I’ve added them to my feed reader, which also puts them on my public blogroll.

    Any other comments you would like to share?

    Some of you took this opportunity to share some general thoughts about woodwind doubling, to expand upon your biographical details or musical experiences, or to offer critique/commentary on the survey itself. Many of you were also kind enough to express appreciation for the survey, my blog, and other resources on my website. It was deeply gratifying and also super weird to hear from a few of you that you drew inspiration from my website as kids and are now working musicians, graduate students, etc. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to say hello or share a few thoughts.

    In conclusion, thanks once again to all for your participation, readership, and friendship. It was great to hear from so many of you, and I hope to do it again in 2031.

  • Focus on fundamentals, not localized fixes

    As I’ve discussed here previously, when trying to solve woodwind-playing problems there’s a useful distinction between problem-specific solutions and simply shoring up fundamental technique.

    Here are some examples of problem-specific solutions:

    • Second-octave G-sharp tends to crack on saxophone, especially tenor? When you get to that note, blow warmer air (in other words, use a lower voicing).
    • Low notes on oboe respond sluggishly? Try dropping your jaw a bit as you descend into that register.
    • Flute pitch sagging at softer dynamics? Increase your breath support as you decrescendo.

    Notice that all of these suggestions give you a sort of localized task to perform—make some change to your tone-production technique whenever you play a certain note. This is an exhausting way to play: trying to remember and execute a handful of directives for each note that goes by; discovering that a constantly-changing tone-production technique makes tone, pitch, and response unstable; adding another layer of fixes to try to counteract the instability. It can quickly become too much to process, and higher-order things like musical expression get sacrificed.

    Sometimes these localized fixes are necessary, usually as a workaround to some flaw or compromise in the equipment’s design or manufacture. But much more often the “fix” should be an improvement to fundamental technique:

    • If lowering your voicing helps the cracking G-sharp on tenor, what would happen if you used that lower voicing on every note?
    • If taking some jaw pressure off the oboe reed helps the low notes speak, what would happen if you didn’t add that pressure back in the higher registers?
    • If increasing breath support helps buoy up softer notes, would it hurt the louder ones?

    My guess is that by making these fixes part of your fundamental technique, instead of applying them here and there like bandages, you would discover:

    • a richer, more in-tune tenor saxophone tone
    • clearer, more immediate oboe articulation, with less fatigue/pain
    • flute playing improved in virtually every aspect

    Examine your problem-specific fixes carefully, and try making them your default approaches rather than special-occasion ones.

    When dealing with problem spots in your music, it’s okay to remind yourself of relevant and helpful fundamental techniques, but the ultimate goal should be to remove as much as possible of the mental overhead and physical gymnastics from your playing. Develop good basic technique that lets the instrument more or less play itself, so you can focus on the creative aspects.

  • David Erato on his clarinet “journey”

    David Erato, a Wisconsin-based woodwind doubler and teacher, describes the motivation behind his year-long “journey” to improve his clarinet chops:

    The idea as a “doubler” is to make whatever instrument is in your hand not feel like a foreign object. One should really study the instrument as if it is the only instrument you play. Practice the same method books, etudes, solos, as a clarinetist in a symphony once did.

    David devised a plan to work his way through a book of technical etudes, and carried it out. His plan was based on the a similar system he had used as a university saxophone student. The result?

    I can say after all of that, I really do feel like I’ve taken my technique game up several notches on clarinet.  It may be hard to believe, but about half way through the book I felt more connected to the instrument.  Even though I was in more difficult keys, larger interval jumps became easier than when I started.  By the end of it, I didn’t have to think much about playing 4ths in the key of D# harmonic minor.

    It’s worth reading the whole thing. There’s one key point from David’s story that I’ve discussed here before, but which is worth restating: as a woodwind doubler, you have to be a beginner on each instrument. David had already completed a technique-building regimen on the saxophone, prescribed by a good saxophone teacher, but hadn’t done so yet on the clarinet. Many of us make the mistake of thinking that such things transfer automatically. They don’t!

    I know that many of my readers are college students and/or educators, and may have some discretionary time coming up when the spring semester ends. What fundamental techniques can you spend the summer shoring up?

  • Random Note Picker, version 0.3

    The Random Note Picker web app got a facelift and a few new features. I use this mostly for quizzing my students on their scales.

    Two features added by popular request: a timer function, so you can generate new groups of random notes every few seconds hands-free, and (optional) double-flats/double-sharps.

    Check it out, and send me your bug reports, feature requests, or other thoughts and comments.

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